Interview With Larry Chase of GC Food and Brewery

8:52 am Beer News, Restaurants

picture-017.jpgLarry Chase is the Worthouse/Brewery Manager for , a new local Brewpub located in Creve Coeur. Larry was kind enough to answer some of my questions about how they brew their beer, how the ferment it and what some of his favorite styles are. (You can read my initial thoughts of GCFB here.)

STL Hops: How many styles does GC produce in a year?
Larry Chase: GC serves 4 regular house beers: Northern Light Lager (pale lager), Brother Benedict’s Bock (bock), Duke of Wellington IPA (IPA), and Broad Axe Stout (dry Irish stout). We also brew 6 seasonal beers. The current line-up includes Burning Barn Irish Red Ale, Ostara’s Spring Ale, Wag’s Wheat (Hefeweizen), Belgian White Ale, Oktoberfest, and McK’s Scottish Ale. All locations have one 350 gal batch of the seasonal to serve.

STL Hops: How much room for experimentation do the brewers have?
LC: Our head brewers experiment with recipe improvement through process controls and lab testing. Certain seasonal beers are sometimes tweaked on a year to year basis to improve flavor. Experimentation for developing new beers is limited given that the current seasonal rotation is set in place.

STL Hops: Can you quickly explain how the Fermentus Interruptus process works?
LC: Granite City’s business model for beer production is designed for flavor consistency and attractive financial leverage across a multi-unit restaurant concept. We are a restaurant with a microbrewery. A centralized brewery for wort production gives us the opportunity to consistently control the flavor inputs of the brewing cycle. We also remove from the restaurants both the capital cost of brewing equipment and the square footage cost of a manufacturing facility.

We then ship the wort in a customized tank truck to each location. After off-loading into fermenters we pitch yeast and finish the production cycle through fermentation, maturation, and filtering.

Shipping wort instead of finished beer allows us to avoid the complex legal hurdles of shipping alcohol across state lines.

STL Hops: How does the wort arrive at the stores?
LC: The wort is shipped in a straight tanker truck. Our trucks have a series of 4 or 6 individual pods (all insulated) at 400 gal each. This set-up lets us ship multiple styles of beer to multiple locations in one trip. We use hoses and a pump at each restaurant to transfer the beer from the truck into the fermenters.

STL Hops: How do you avoid problems like contamination?
LC: We follow standard cleaning, sanitizing, and testing procedures like all breweries. We simply pay attention to the extra step of wort shipping. The wort is chilled to 40oF and stored in a 37oF cooler prior to shipment. Like all breweries we have the constant challenge of maintaining clean and sanitary conditions.

We have a lab at the central worthouse for on-going sample testing.

Every brewery manager is trained and follows a set of SOP’s for the brewery operations at each restaurant. Our brewery field manager, trained in brewing science, oversees the work of all brewery managers.

STL Hops: How do you deal with things like aging with the limited capacity at each store?
LC: We serve 2 ales and 2 lagers as part of our regular beer line-up. We have enough tank space (5 fermenters, 8 cellar vessels) to ensure our required maturation time for each of the beers. Through our volume and usage reporting system we are able to schedule deliveries to ensure each location has wort on a just-in-time basis.

Running out tends to be only an issue when we experience mechanical failures with equipment at the restaurants. That’s no different from any other brewpub.

We only serve one batch of each seasonal. This increases the demand and the urgency for customers to come try the beer before it is gone.

STL Hops: What’s your favorite style of beer right now?
LC: I lean towards hop flavored and bitter beers. The bigger winter seasonal beers are always fun to drink during this colder time of year.

Thank you again Larry for providing STL Hops readers with a little more information on how your process works.

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6 Responses
  1. Paul :

    Date: January 29, 2008 @ 9:25 am

    This sounds like it’s going to be an extremely successful business. People love consistency and their going to love to visit there favorite brewpub when their on vacation or a business trip. From the looks of their website they look like a publicly traded CO. I’d buy some stock! Because I’m sure in ten years they’ll be the applebee’s of Brewpubs.

  2. Jim Zavist :

    Date: January 30, 2008 @ 6:37 am

    In some ways, it sounds a bit like Hops. While people do like consistency, the reason most of us “snobs” go to a brewpub is for something unique. As a business model, it offers a good potential for success, but if I were to invest, I’d hitch my horse to Rock Bottom (or something similar), where there is an onsite brewmaster and an ability to respond to local market tastes . . .

  3. Paul :

    Date: January 30, 2008 @ 9:23 am

    I agree Jim as a Beer Geek myself I would also rather drink a more unique style of beer and at the same time support one of my local brewpubs/microbrewery’s. My hope is that GC opens people up to microbrew and they in turn visit one of the many local microbrews with newfound appreciation…I hope that’s not to much to ask.

  4. Matt Thenhaus :

    Date: February 1, 2008 @ 2:07 pm

    I second Paul’s comment about this place hopefully providing gateway beers for lots of people, just like the recent decision of Ruby Tuesday’s to start carrying craft.
    Still, there’s just something disheartening about the phrase “attractive financial leverage across a multi-unit restaurant concept.”

  5. Angela :

    Date: February 22, 2008 @ 11:22 am

    I worked at GC Food & Brewery and let sme tell you, its not as gravy as it appears. They treat their employees very badly. Putting 17 - 20 servers on the floor instead of 10, purposly decreasing the amount of money each server will make.

    Some nights they will keep their cut servers until close simply because they feel like it. This caused a mass number of employees to quit.

    Recently there was talk of a coperate employee that was to be joining the store named Rob, in which we were all warned that he throws glass at walls and will scream at you for ringing in an order wrong.

    My recommendation is to not eat here, this would be supporting the way they treat their employees!

  6. Mike :

    Date: August 12, 2008 @ 6:42 pm

    I worked there with Angela. Lets just say she wasn’t gravy. Lazy just starts to describe her. Anybody with common sense would know that a Restaurant that opens needs many employees and will cut when business dictates. The store opened in Jan and she was gone by Feb. Does that say anything about her? She didn’t quit she was fired. So to the managers there G,J,R,F and C. Keep doing a great job and to all future guests we welcome you and look forward for you to come in and and have a meal the GC way.

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